Coach Rui Faria: Football Philosophy and Methodology
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Coach Rui Faria: Football Philosophy and Methodology
This episode captures a podcast interview with Rui Faria, a highly experienced football coach who worked with Jose Mourinho for many years. Faria discusses his tactical methodology, emphasizing the crucial need for coaches to have a clear understanding of how they want their team to play before designing training sessions. He argues that modern football coaching has become overly reliant on sports science and data, sometimes at the expense of focusing on the core game itself and the intuition of the players. Faria stresses the importance of adapting coaching to different cultural contexts and player qualities while maintaining fundamental principles and creating a holistic approach that develops both the individual and the collective.
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OK, let's dive right into the fascinating, sometimes a pretty
debated world of elite football coaching.
Absolutely. It's complex territory.
It really is. Today, we're taking a deep
plunge into insights drawn from someone who's well spent nearly
two decades operating right at the highest levels of the game,
working very closely with a truly celebrated leader.
A unique perspective. Definitely, we're going to
explore, you know, the absolute cornerstone of tactical
methodology, peel back the layers on that sometimes tricky
relationship between sports science and, well, what actually
happens out on the pitch. That's a big one.
Huge. We'll dissect the intricate
dance of adapting your fundamental approach, your core
ideas, to different clubs, different cultural environments.
Which is never straightforward. Never, And ultimately, we really
want to hone in on what truly makes the decisive difference in
developing both individual players and, crucially,
successful, winning teams. You know, it's, it's very easy
these days, isn't it? Especially with all the data,
the tactical analysis flashing up on screen.
Oh yeah, everywhere. To watch a game and feel like
you understand exactly what's happening down.
There like you've got it all figured out.
Right. But the insights we're digging
into today, they push well beyond that surface level.
They get right to the heart of the why.
The why behind the tactics? Exactly the why behind the
decisions, the fundamental principles guiding the daily
grind, the training, and maybe most importantly, that often
overlooked human. Element, the people involved.
The people, it underpins everything in this sport,
doesn't it? So our mission today really is
to pull out those crucial Nuggets of knowledge, those
perspectives from this incredibly experienced
viewpoint. To help you, the listener, get
genuinely well informed. Precisely well informed on what
it really takes to drive success in such a, let's face it,
demanding environment. Absolutely.
So for this deep dive, our mission is exactly that.
Unpack the foundational ideas, the philosophies that haven't
just shaped success at the very pinnacle of the game.
But also use that experience as a lens, a way to maybe question
some of the more, let's say, fashionable trends we see
cropping up in modern football today.
That was like a plan. Where do we start?
All right, let's kick things off with what's presented as the
absolute bedrock, the non negotiable starting point for
any coach. OK, the point is made so
forcefully. The absolute necessity for a
coach, especially at the elite level, to have a crystal clear,
really well defined idea. The idea with a capital I
almost. Exactly.
An idea of how they want their team to play and just as
importantly, how they want to organize everything around the
game. Yeah.
Why is having the idea just so fundamental?
Well, because without that core idea you simply have no
consistent reference point, nothing to anchor to, right?
Think about it logically. What are your specific
principles when your team is defending?
How are you going to build a tax?
What's the immediate plan? The reaction when you win the
ball back? Those crucial transition
moments. And when you lose it, and
conversely, yeah, what's the organization when you lose
possession, How do you shift between those moments?
All these fundamental parts of the game, every single one,
Everyone, everyone must stem directly from that central,
overarching idea of how you want to play.
And if that vision isn't clear, like truly clear in your own
mind, then what then? How can you possibly design A
productive training session? What criteria do you even use to
pick exercises or drills? You're just guessing, maybe.
Pretty much, yeah. Every single thing you plan and
do, every drill, every tactical instruction you give, every bit
of feedback, individual or collect a pen, it has to be
intrinsically linked back to this core idea.
It's the absolute anchor. Without it, the whole process
just drifts. And from the perspective we're
drawing on, it feels like this lack of a clear vision might be
a well significant struggle for quite a few coaches.
Right now you see signs of it. Yeah, it's not framed as like a
harsh criticism of individuals, more an observation.
You can see it may be reflected in how their works organized or
the lack of consistent progress, how things seem to chop and
change maybe based on the last result.
Or external pressures. Yeah, there's a sense sometimes
of being a bit lost in the process.
Lost. Yeah, that's a good word for it.
Precisely. And this is exactly where
methodology fits in. It's not about having some
rigid, inflexible script you can never deviate from.
Not just a playbook, no. No, it's more like a fundamental
guide. Your methodology provides the
necessary framework, the reference point for absolutely
everything you do. It helps you control the
process. Control how?
Not control in a stifling way like crushing creativity, but
control to make sure you're consistently moving in the
direction set by your core idea. It gives stability to your
ideas. Which must be vital under
pressure. Absolutely critical during
competition, Yeah. When things inevitably aren't
going perfectly to plan, it gives you the clear criteria you
need to make quick, effective decisions on the training pitch
and during the match itself. Without a coherent methodology,
one that's directly tied to your core idea, you're basically
trying to build something really complex without any kind of
foundation. Like that blueprint analogy you
mentioned. Exactly trying to build without
blueprints. Yeah, that really helps
visualize it. It's like trying to construct AI
don't know a complicated house by just grabbing whatever tools
or materials are lying around that day.
Just randomly picking stuff without.
Any overarching design for what the final thing is supposed to
look like. You might, you know, manage to
put up some walls. Maybe even slap a roof on.
Something might get built. But it's going to be
inconsistent, probably unstable, and almost certainly not the
building you actually set out to create in the first place.
Exactly. The idea and the methodology.
They're inseparable. They're intrinsically linked.
The idea tells you what you want to build.
The final shape, the function, the methodology gives you the
systematic approach, the tools, the discipline process to
actually build it. And keeps you focused.
And crucially, yeah, it keeps you focused and disciplined
throughout that whole construction process.
OK, so we've established the idea as the foundation
methodology, as the guide, the structure.
Let's go a layer deeper now and talk about philosophy.
OK, we hear philosophy thrown around all the time in football
talk, but it often feels a bit simplified, doesn't it?
It does, yeah. Often very superficial.
People tend to just equate it with the style of play.
They'll say, oh, their philosophy is just playing a
passing game. Or you know, they believe in
counter attacking football. And that's where the term gets
really underestimated. Philosophy in coaching.
In reality, it's profoundly deeper than just the style you
adopt. It encompasses absolutely
everything that defines your entire approach to the job.
It's the absolute overarching direction you are fundamentally
committed to following. It dictates how you choose to
interact with your players every single day.
Your communication style. How you communicate complex
stuff effectively? Yeah.
Your approach to giving feedback, Is it corrective?
Is it positive? Are you naturally positive in
how you interact? Do you have the patience
required? Patience to develop ideas over
time. Exactly, to genuinely develop
intricate ideas over time and see them through the tough
periods. Your philosophy is intrinsically
woven with your deepest beliefs, your core personality traits,
ultimately who you are as a person beyond just being the
coach. Wow, so it's really personal.
Deeply personal. And this naturally leads us to
maybe the single most critical element within that philosophy,
which is absolute belief. You simply must believe with
every fiber of your being in your core idea and your coaching
philosophy. Why is that so critical?
Because if that belief isn't genuine, if it's not truly
authentic, it just won't be transmitted effectively to the
players. They'll sense it.
They are incredibly perceptive. They will sense any lack of
conviction immediately. To be truly effective, you have
to be utterly true to your fundamental principles, and that
demands unwavering belief from within yourself first.
It does feel like looking at football today, there's a bit of
generalization happening with philosophies.
Lots of descriptions sound quite similar, almost generic.
Yeah, they often boil down to that surface level style, like
we play a passing game. Right.
Why do you think that generalization might be so
common? Is it just a lack of
understanding of that deeper philosophical commitment you're
talking about? It can certainly be influenced,
maybe limited by the cultural context you're in, or it might
simply stem from that under appreciation of just how deep
coaching philosophy truly runs. Like we discussed.
Yeah, it's so intrinsically linked to the coach's
personality, their core beliefs. If you haven't done the hard
work to genuinely define those deeper personal aspects of your
philosophy for yourself, it's. Easier to just.
It's maybe natural to just default to what's currently
fashionable, what's being talked about, what's perceived as
successful right now. Following the trend.
And this connects directly to the prevalence of trends.
While there are undeniably tendencies, evolutions, and how
the game is played, you absolutely cannot afford to be a
fundamentalist. A fundamentalist explain that.
The rigid idea that there's only one single way to play football
or only one single way to win, it's incredibly restrictive.
Ultimately, it limits you. Because the game is
unpredictable. Exactly.
Football is inherently unpredictable, dynamic, and
fundamentally open to lots of different approaches.
The more options, the more tools, the more different
answers you have prepared to face that unpredictability.
The better off you are. The better equipped your team
will be, reducing your entire coaching philosophy just down to
the style of play, is simply too shallow, too short sighted for
the depth of personal belief needed to navigate the
complexities and challenges of this sport at the top level.
You use that term fundamentalist and it hits quite hard as a
warning against a certain approach.
So picking up on that, what does avoiding fundamentalism look
like in practice on the pitch? How does that rigidity hurt
A-Team if you are too tied to just one way?
OK, let's take a really common example we see all the time
today, A-Team absolutely committed to building play from
the back, starting deep, goalkeeper, defenders.
Right playing out from the back. Yeah, now imagine you're in a
match. You've been trying this for the
whole first half, 45 minutes. But the opposition, they've done
their homework, they're pressing high really effectively.
Making it difficult. They're consistently winning the
ball back high up the pitch. In your defensive third, maybe
in the first or second phase of your build up, you just cannot
get the ball past their midfield line cleanly.
OK, stuck. Now you have to honestly ask
yourself, if you've tried this for 45 minutes and it is clearly
not working, is it really an intelligent or effective
approach to the game if you possess no alternative answer?
If you have no Plan B. Exactly.
If you don't have a different tool in the toolbox, a different
strategy, a different pattern of play that you've actually
prepared and can switch to, your team must be equipped.
They must be trained and prepared to do it differently
when Plan A is being shut down South.
Effectively. And there's maybe that extra
layer of pressure now too, isn't there?
Because of statistics, the media narrative.
How so? Well the numbers track things
like short build up percentage, even if that play eventually
goes long because all the short options were blocked.
I see the stats don't tell the whole story.
Right. So this external focus on
certain metrics might maybe inadvertently push coaches
towards chasing those fashionable numbers or
tendencies. Instead of just finding the best
solution for the actual game situation.
Exactly the pragmatic solution for what the opposition is doing
right there, right then. Exactly.
You need to cultivate a deep, intuitive understanding that the
game is inherently open. There are many valid ways to
achieve your objectives. You absolutely have to empower
your team. Empower them how?
Give them the capacity, the knowledge to read the game
situation themselves and understand when the dynamics
demand something different, a change of rhythm, a different
way to progress the ball. So players aren't just waiting
for instructions. I shouldn't feel like they're
completely reliant on constant micromanagement from the
sideline for every single decision.
This kind of adaptability requires dedicated preparation,
working on these different options in training.
Practicing Plan B. Plan C.
Having spent time practicing various ways to bypass a high
press, for instance, when you break it down, it really is just
common sense, isn't it, considering how fluid and
unpredictable competitive football actually is?
Yeah, that perspective on common sense in an unpredictable game
makes total sense. OK, let's shift now from the
idea and philosophy to the actual application of
methodology, especially how it adapts.
When you move to totally different contexts, new clubs,
new countries, distinct football cultures, big shifts.
There's often this perception, isn't there, that really
successful coaches just have a fixed, rigid blueprint that they
just stamp it on to every team they manage, no matter where or
who the players are. Yeah, that perception exists,
but the reality based on experience, it's quite
different. The core principles, the
foundational pillars of your methodology, they stay constant.
The core doesn't change. They don't fundamentally change
just because you're in a new country or at a different club.
The operation of your methodology, the systematic
application? That's fundamentally the same,
however. But.
You absolutely must adapt that operation to the specific
reality you walk into. This includes the club's
culture, the country's broader football culture and, maybe most
critically, the existing beliefs, experiences and
characteristics of the players you actually have.
You mentioned arriving at Chelsea back in 2004 as an
example of this. Yes, I recall it vividly.
Many of the established really important players in that squad,
they were genuinely apprehensive, almost worried.
Worried why? Because the training was so
profoundly different from what they were used to, their
previous experience involved a lot of pure running, rigorous
interval training, a very traditional focus on fitness
work, often done away from the ball.
And your approach was? With us from day one, the
absolute central focus was playing football.
Just playing, playing, playing, playing.
So what was the response to their worry?
My immediate response was just to transmit confidence, to
reassure them. I simply told them, concentrate
entirely on giving your absolute best effort in every session.
Actively enjoy playing football again.
Focus intensely on improving yourselves as players within
this new framework. And building belief.
I reiterated my belief that the method we were implementing was
the right way and that they should trust and believe in it.
Give it a chance. And what happened?
What unfolded was that through the actual lived experience,
going through the method day after day, competing fiercely,
beginning to feel the positive results on the pitch, the
players genuinely felt good, often even better, fitter,
sharper than they had before. So the experience proved it.
Their confidence in the approach grew naturally because they were
experiencing its tangible value first hand.
In competition. Doubts are completely natural,
understandable when something's new and different, but letting
them test the method in the heat of matches gradually dissolve
those doubts. So the fundamentals didn't
change, but the application did. Exactly.
The fundamental principles of the method were unwavering, but
slight. Necessary adaptations were made
to the operation based on their existing physical backgrounds,
their mental backgrounds, their beliefs, integrating them into
our way of working. That's such a crucial
distinction, especially because of the public story.
The sort of track apps view often makes success sound almost
miraculous or instant. Nothing is instant.
Was there a significant adaptation period needed then,
even if it was more about building belief through
experience rather than just changing tactics?
Belief in your process is absolutely paramount, and you
transmit that through consistency and ultimately
results. If you're given, say, an hour
and a half for a training session, what's the single most
important thing you want to achieve?
Play. Football.
You want to play football, you want the players to improve by
doing the activity itself, by performing the actions, the
skills, the decision making that are central to the game.
Like the pianist analogy. Exactly like that analogy, which
isn't mine, but it captures it perfectly.
A great pianist improves by playing the piano, right?
They don't spend hours running laps around the piano or doing
finger push ups hoping it'll magically make them a better
musician. They play.
This core philosophy drives the deliberate choice to structure
training overwhelmingly around playing based exercises, what we
call methodological specificity. And you contrasted that game
centric approach with maybe what's sometimes seen today.
Well, you contrast that with, say, the past.
When you arrived at a major club there was often immense
immediate pressure, expectation to win titles right away.
Deliver now. Deliver now Today you
occasionally see coaches arriving at big clubs where
there seems less immediate pressure to win major trophies.
The focus is perhaps more on the long term future development,
sometimes even appearing to dismiss or overlook the club's
history of past successes. As if winning isn't the main
thing. You see top teams go years
without significant silverware, almost as if winning isn't seen
as a crucial fundamental part of that club's identity and
purpose. Back then in 2004 at Chelsea,
the expectation was undeniably immediate success and the
methodology was designed specifically to deliver that
while simultaneously developing the players abilities through
the act of playing. OK, thinking about training
design itself now, in this modern age, the Internet gives
coaches access to, well, what seems like an infinite library
of exercises and drills. Endless options.
So with all that available, what's the crucial element?
What's to the logic or the system needed behind actually
selecting and organizing those exercises?
You absolutely need your own logic, your own internal
framework. You need a deep, internalized
understanding of what is truly good for you, for your specific
team, and most importantly, for your unique idea of how the game
should be played. Tailored to your idea.
You need to understand what can realistically work in your
specific context with the players you actually have, and
you need to bring order to your whole process.
Order, not rigidity. Exactly.
It's not about being rigidly controlling in some bureaucratic
way. It's about not losing control of
the overall developmental process, having a clear logical
structure, a progression, A rationale behind every single
session. And training isn't static, you
said. No.
It's a dynamic, constantly evolving process.
You're perpetually drawing on new insights, adapting,
designing new exercises, building a specific reality
tailored for that exact moment in the season.
Based on the next game. For the specific time available
between matches, whether it's just two days for recovery and
prep or a full week, this constant creation and adaptation
always guided by your fundamental logic and
methodology, that's absolutely key to effective training.
And if you're not rigidly controlling every minute based
on, say, external metrics or a fixed plan, what then is the
real fundamental test, the definitive proof of whether
you're training, design and overall methodology are actually
working? In football, maybe more than any
other sport, the matches are the ultimate test.
Simple as that. The game tells the truth.
They provide the clearest, most authentic image of what you
truly have as a team, how the team is performing under
pressure, which tactical aspects are working well, and
critically, what specifically needs improvement.
So the match dictates the next steps.
The feedback drive directly from the matches is the essential
data you use to structure and build your subsequent work.
You identify those areas needing attention.
Then you design your exercises, your drills, your feedback
sessions, specifically around addressing those particular
aspects. It's a continuous cycle driven
by performance. But it's complex, right?
Balancing work and recovery. Hugely complex.
You also need to understand the specific moment in the season
when the next match is, how to intelligently balance the
critical need for recovery with the need for effective work.
You have to be able to design exercises and manage intensity
so players improve without causing undue fatigue when
recovery is the absolute priority.
A balancing act. It's a multi faceted puzzle.
You're considering many related factors simultaneously, all
guided by your core methodology and your deeply held beliefs
about fitness and preparation within the specific context of
playing football. And you mentioned seeing
something recently that highlighted this focus young
kids doing gym work. Yeah, building on that point
about training focus, I found it quite striking seeing footage of
very young kids, maybe only 12 years old, part of the very
important European Academy team and gaining quite significant
structure, gym work. And then you hear people asking
the question, wondering why we don't seem to be producing as
many truly extraordinary, spontaneously creative players
today. That observation feels quite
pointed, maybe even a bit controversial in the context of
modern trends, especially coming from someone with your
background, which includes sports science.
You're not fundamentally against sports science itself, are you?
Not at all, not at all, and that's a crucial point to
understand. My background includes sports
science, so I have a deep appreciation for its potential
value. I absolutely believe there's an
important place for it in football.
But there's a problem. The significant problem, as I
see it, is that too many individuals currently operating
as sports scientists within football simply do not
understand the game itself at a sufficiently deep level.
Don't understand football? They tend to fall into what you
could call the expert paradox. The expert paradox.
Acquiring deeper and deeper knowledge about smaller and
smaller areas, but excessively analyzing the game's inherent
complexity, breaking it down into isolated, fragmented
components. You go from the whole game to
the player, to physiological systems, then even narrower
aspect. You become an expert in
something that represents A continuously diminishing piece
of the game as a unified whole. This often results in having
numerous experts with incredibly profound knowledge of a very
narrow, isolated area. But they miss the big picture.
But critically lack a comprehensive holistic
understanding of the game's overall complexity and the
crucial interconnectedness of all its various elements.
You shared a really powerful anecdote that seems to
illustrate this point about relying solely on metrics.
It involved a player aiming to break a record for consecutive
matches played. Yes, this was a player, a very
important player, focused intensely on achieving this
specific goal. Playing consecutive matches, the
sports science test being done were consistently indicating
clear objective signs of physical fatigue.
The data said he was tired. Objectively, yes.
Yet despite these scientific readings, he continued to play
match after match, performing at a high level without
experiencing any apparent physical problems or breakdowns.
So what does that tell us? This wasn't about dismissing or
ignoring the science entirely. It was about recognizing that
the players immense mental strength, his deep emotional
drive, his laser like focus on achieving his objective.
These were factors that transcended and in that specific
case seemed to override. With the purely physical signs
alone, we're indicating a. Human element again.
Exactly. So science and objective signs
aren't the entire picture. Information from science is
undeniably important, absolutely, but it must be
placed in its proper context given the appropriate weight.
It absolutely must not be elevated to a status where it
becomes more important than what is truly fundamental in
football. Which is.
Which is the game itself, the complex human element, the
players mental resilience, their emotional state, their intuitive
understanding. You mentioned the size of some
sports science departments now. Consider the size of some
departments in top clubs today, sometimes 30 or more people for
a playing squad of maybe 25 players.
That's a lot of staff per player.
You have to ask pragmatically, what are all those people
actually doing day-to-day today? Sometimes, maybe
unintentionally, they might feel pressure to justify their
existence or show their value. Leading them to push players.
Leading them to push players to do extra work.
At the elite high performance level, where recovery time is
often incredibly minimal and precious, any unnecessary,
counterproductive extra work can actively hinder crucial recovery
or even increase injury risk. Every detail matters.
At this level, every single small detail matters immensely.
Therefore, sports science certainly plays an important
part. It should be a valuable plus, a
compliment that enhances the fundamental work.
But not the main thing. But it absolutely cannot and
should not override what is truly fundamental the coaching,
the core methodology, the actual football work on the pitch, and
the ability of the coaching staff to maintain insightful
control of that process. Within this discussion about
measurement and science, you also brought up specificity.
What, in your view, is true specificity in football
training? I would strongly argue against
the idea of finding specificity in the gym.
While gym work can contribute to general physical capacity, true
specificity in football is found in playing the game itself.
On the pitch. On the pitch, and the most
important specificity, the one that dictates the relevance of
everything else, is the specificity directly related to
your team, style of play, your specific game model.
Your idea again. That level of specificity is
what truly tells you if a particular football exercise on
the pitch, a small sided game, a positional drill is genuinely
effective and relevant for developing players within your
unique way of playing. So you can develop physical
aspects on the pitch too. Many, if not most aspects of a
player's required performance capacity thing, sometimes
targeted in isolation elsewhere, can be effectively developed
right there on the training pitch within the appropriate
context of playing football. We don't necessarily needing
significant time in a separate gym environment.
And bringing that back to your earlier observation about those
12 year old kids doing intensive gym work and the question about
fewer extraordinary players emerging.
I believe there's a strong correlation there.
I think it happens because young players are being overly focused
on aspects that are either not truly fundamental for the
development as football players, or those aspects are being
worked on in isolation in the wrong context.
So what should the focus be for kids?
For children, 98% of their developmental work should be
happening on the pitch actively playing football.
You need to create the correct context for that development
through intelligently designed small sided games and exercises.
Games that teach. Games that inherently challenge
them to develop all the necessary aspects.
Individual technical skills, decision making under pressure,
tactical understanding, physical capacities within game actions.
Everything they need to become a complete football player is
fundably contained within the game itself.
This conversation around measurement leads us nicely to
another big topic in modern football, the widespread use of
GPS technology. GPS.
You mentioned an experience at a major club where the decision
was made to stop using GPS devices extensively with the
players and how that was seen externally as maybe being old
fashioned. Right.
Again, it's critical to understand that there was
nothing inherently against GPS technology itself or the
principles of using data. The core issue was that the
technology was, in my view, being misused.
Misused how? In a way that had the potential
to negatively influence the players mindset and the overall
team culture. How so?
Relying heavily on GPS data to monitor and control load every
single day can inadvertently create a negative habit among
players. They might become overly focused
on hitting certain distance or intensity numbers after every
single session. Chasing numbers?
Chasing numbers? Yeah, sometimes even competing
against teammates data. Also, different GPS devices can
give varying measures, and the accuracy of some algorithms used
to calculate metrics like high speed running or acceleration,
well, that can certainly be debated.
Except maybe distance. Except maybe total distance
covered, which is generally more reliable.
My personal experience was simply that I didn't need
extensive GPS monitoring daily to effectively control the
training process and manage player load.
You've done it without before. I had been doing so successfully
throughout my entire career without relying on them, and
significantly during those two seasons at that specific club
where we weren't heavily emphasizing GPS data in that
manner. Yeah, the player availability,
meaning the percentage of the squad fit and available for
selection, was actually better than in previous years at the
club when GPS was being used much more extensively.
That's a significant finding. It was so the decision wasn't
about making some grand philosophical statement against
tech just for the sake of it. It was about finding the correct
supportive place for data and avoiding the potential
misconceptions, the overemphasis and the negative cultural
implications that can come from misusing GPS.
The. Cultural impact.
Creating a culture where players primary focus after training is
immediately checking their GPS numbers, how much they ran, what
high intensities they hit. They can actually potentially
hurt the team's focus and priorities more than it benefits
them. Because the main aspects aren't
those numbers. Exactly.
The truly main decisive aspects of the game are not those
particular numbers. Perhaps this widespread culture,
this intense focus on raw running numbers, distance
intensities, maybe it's inadvertently scaring the
development of the game and players in a certain potentially
suboptimal direction. And that connects directly to
the concept of intensity itself. We usually think of intensity in
football, mostly physically right sprints, high speed runs,
pressing. That's the common view, yes.
But you highlight there's a different, maybe more important
type of intensity. Yes, absolutely.
There are crucial mental and emotional aspects of intensity.
They can be far, far more important than the purely
physical expression. Intensity is deeply,
fundamentally related to your level of focus.
Your concentration levels your awareness of the constantly
changing context of the game, your understanding of the
specific moment within that game.
Can you give an example? Consider, for a powerful
example, a player stepping up to take a deciding penalty kick.
World Cup final last moments. Ultimate pressure.
The hopes of their entire nation resting on that single kick, the
level of demanding focus, of mental and emotional
concentration required in that precise moment, is incredibly
high. It is a moment of immense
intensity. But physically?
But it has virtually no physical expression whatsoever.
The player is standing still, waiting.
Right, that's a great example. It clearly demonstrates that
intensity isn't always and isn't primarily tied to physical
output or running. You don't necessarily need to be
sprinting around to make the best possible pass, the most
intelligent positional adjustment, or the most crucial
defensive interception. Decisions matter more.
These critical decisions are linked to your intense focus to
truly being mentally in the game, actively reading and
interpreting the situation, understanding what's needed
rather than just expending energy running back and forth
without purpose. You see that sometimes, don't
you? Teams struggling to slow down.
You observe many matches today where teams seem to struggle to
deliberately slow the game down, to be more cerebral, to really
think their way through situations.
What you often witness is relentless, almost frantic
running, making the game feel overwhelmingly physical.
Intensity of thought versus intensity of movement.
Intensity for me should be fundamentally related first and
foremost to the brain. Focus, concentration, decision
making before it's about maximum physical exertion.
Shifting gears slightly, you've spoken about experiencing a
unique tactical culture in Italy, describing it as
remarkably adaptable. What made that stand out
compared to other places? In Italy, it was genuinely
remarkable, almost incredible, to witness how when one team
made a significant structural or system change during a match
altering formation for example, the opposing team was almost
immediately able to adapt and directly match that change.
This capacity for instant structural adjustment was
something I hadn't seen to that same degree elsewhere.
How does that happen? Is it just ingrained?
This high level of tactical adaptability doesn't happen by
chance. It comes directly from specific
methodology and dedicated practice.
If you spend significant time in training, playing, and
practicing structural and positional changes, your team
becomes inherently prepared to recognize and execute those
adjustments in a match. So.
Structure matters as much as movement.
Structural changes altering player positioning formation
inherently and significantly influence the space is created
on the pitch, both for your team and how the opposition is
affected. While dynamic movement within
the structure is undoubtedly important gives life to the
team, the fundamental positions players occupy by design also
naturally create specific spaces that need to be managed.
Managing space. A nice fight, you call it.
Managing those spaces, attacking and defending becomes a
fascinating, complex fight during the game, and in Italy
this battle for space was particularly special precisely
because of this ingrained culture of immediate structural
adaptation, not just subtle dynamic tweaks within a fixed
shape. They were pragmatic.
Incredibly pragmatic, they offered an immediate structural
answer to whatever tactical change the opponent attempted.
And you contrasted that specifically with experiences
elsewhere where the opposition might wait much longer.
Exactly. In other places, the opposition
might be much slower to react, sometimes almost waiting a long
time to see how a change plays out before trying to adapt.
In Italy, the response felt much more immediate, proactive, often
involving directly mirroring the structural change to neutralize
its effect right away. Fascinating cultural difference.
Let's turn now to the players themselves.
How does player quality interact with the methodology?
You can have the most brilliant method theoretically, but you
still need the players, right? Absolutely.
Player quality is without question decisive for success in
football. As a coach, you are
fundamentally dependent on the qualities and capabilities of
the players you have. Simple as that.
So what's the coach's role then in relation to that quality?
Your fundamental role as a coach is to take your message, your
idea, and make it as crystal clear and uncomplicated as
possible for that specific group of players.
You need to create the conditions through your
methodology and training design. For them to succeed.
For those players to feel comfortable and empowered using
their unique individual skills to contribute effectively to the
team's overall idea and objectives.
And crucially, your core idea itself needs to be realistically
influenced and shaped by the actual quality and
characteristics of the players you have.
You have to tailor the idea to the players.
You must design a system and approach that maximizes their
potential. You absolutely must take the
time to deeply understand the players you have and tailor your
ideas to match that reality. The main objective is helping
them perform at their absolute best, contributing maximally to
the team. Which means giving them freedom.
This demands giving sufficient space for players individual
creativity and intuition. You cannot, for example,
restrict or stifle a naturally highly creative player just
because you're rigidly preconceived idea doesn't
immediately seem to accommodate their flair.
So the team concepts act like a culture.
Having clear, well defined concepts of play understood by
everyone acts like an inherent culture for the team.
It influences how players naturally operate and make
decisions within the system and the players individual
qualities. Speed, skill, technique,
tactical intelligence, these influence everything.
Like transitions finishing. From the efficiency of
transitions to the quality of finishing in front of goal,
everything. Sometimes in discussions about
tactical methodology, it feels like the focus is almost
entirely on the collective unit, maybe unintentionally losing
sight of the individual player within that structure.
But understanding the individual is absolutely fundamental to
maximizing the collective. The better you truly know and
understand each individual player strengths, weaknesses,
motivations, personality, the better equipped you are to
create the environment and provide the guidance needed to
get the very best out of them. Human first, player second.
It's crucial to see and understand the player, first as
a human being, then as a football player.
You simply cannot and should not try to separate those two
aspects. One inevitably influences the
other profoundly. What about that saying the team
is more important than any individual?
I agree with that concept absolutely.
In terms of philosophy, collective goals, discipline
must be prioritized over purely selfish interests.
But there's a crucial nuance, which is when you make the
effort to understand and develop each individual player well,
when you support them and help them maximize their unique
potential within the team framework, their subsequent
contribution to the collective effort will be significantly
higher. Making the team stronger
overall. And when the contributions of
all individuals are maximized, the team as a whole inevitably
becomes much bigger, much stronger and much more
successful. Let's touch briefly on the
coaching staff structure. There's an observation that
today there seems to be a much greater emphasis on staff
alignment, having increasingly large teams of coaches support
staff, perhaps more than in the past.
The structures have certainly grown.
You've seen this evolution first hand.
What's your perspective? My personal perspective based on
my experience at the highest levels is that I don't
necessarily believe in having excessively large Staffs.
That's interesting, given the trend, why not?
Because quite pragmatically, more people often translates
into more information, more complexity, and potentially it
can easily lead to what I describe as a big mess.
Too much noise. Too much noise, too many
opinions potentially pulling in different directions.
My preferred model has always been having a clear leader at
the top with well defined ideas and direction, supported by a
relatively small core group of individuals who specialize in
specific key areas. These core people contribute
significantly to planning, are deeply involved in the essential
daily work and are part of the key decision making unit and
others. Support that core.
Work can then be delegated efficiently to others in
different support areas, but the primary intervention guidance
and ultimate decision making flows from that compact core
group working directly with the leader.
So less is more. The principle here is strongly
less is more. A pragmatic, streamlined
approach keeps the core message crystal clear among those
driving decisions. Ensure is consistent direction,
avoids wasted time and crucial information getting lost or
diluted through too many layers. And avoids unnecessary
complexity. And prevents adding unneeded
information. They can simply complicate
things. Within that streamline
structure, you mentioned the incredibly crucial role of a
buffer, someone working very closely with the leader managing
information flow. That role is absolutely crucial,
fundamental in my opinion, to the effective operation of a top
coaching team. The person working closely with
or immediately behind the leader needs excellent, comprehensive
understanding and control of the overall process.
What do they do specifically? They're strategically positioned
to pick up information from various sources, players, other
staff, external sources analysis.
A significant amount of incoming information can be effectively
channelled through this person, who then filters, processes and
reports the essential elements to the leader.
As a filter. Exactly.
This role saves the leader an immense amount of time and can
very often preempt potential problems or stressful situations
before they even reach the leader's desk.
This buffer filters the noise, distills information down to
what's truly fundamental, relevant, actionable.
Sometimes solving problems themselves.
Sometimes even resolving less critical issues themselves
without needing to add to the leader's worries or workload.
It's essential for controlling the information flow and the
overall process efficiently without creating unnecessary
extra work or distractions for the boss.
Thinking about coach education now, if the game has perhaps, as
you suggest, drifted a bit too far into overmeasurement, away
from a deeper, more holistic understanding, how can education
systems help steer it back? It's definitely a significant
challenge, partly because sometimes people involved aren't
even fully aware that there are fundamentally different ways of
looking at the game and approaching coaching.
Information is incredibly abundant everywhere now.
Many people talk about it constantly.
Here's a truly key point that needs emphasis.
Theory or methodology alone does not make you a great coach.
Just knowing it isn't enough. Knowing the theory,
understanding concepts. It's important, yes, but true
greatness in coaching comes from how you operationalize that
theory. How you build, lead, adapt,
manage the process day in day out with real people in dynamic
situations. Simply having knowledge of the
theory doesn't make you a coach. So what's the first step for
education? The absolute first step, I
believe, is for people involved, educators and aspiring coaches
to be genuinely open to exploring different directions
and perspectives, to understand there isn't just one single path
or one single truth. My proposed approach for
effective education would be fundamentally this Start by
intensely looking at football itself.
Spend time thinking deeply about your desired style of play, how
you specifically want to modulate the game's rhythm and
structure. Consciously work to make that
vision your unique identity as a leader and coach.
Build from the game outwards. Build your foundational idea and
philosophy directly from the game itself and your
interpretation of it. Then, and only then, do you
systematically integrate other areas of knowledge, the
sciences, support departments, etcetera.
Your absolute priority should always be your core football
idea and a clear understanding of how these other areas can
effectively influence, complement and support that.
Not the other way around. The problem I increasingly see
today is people prioritizing it the other way around.
They're starting with fragmented scientific data or trends and
trying to build a football idea from that rather than starting
with the football. Within this, there's the idea
that football today is primarily A sprinting game.
Football has always involved sprinting.
It's inherent. I remember it being a
significant component throughout my entire career.
Perhaps today we simply Sprint too much.
Too much. Why?
And this is potentially influenced by the culture and
environment we're creating around the game.
The culture of numbers again. I genuinely worry about this
widespread culture of numbers that is permeated down to
younger levels. You see kids today who seem to
feel putting on a GPS device is as fundamental, as essential as
putting on their actual football boots.
Is a GPS as important as a boot? Is it really?
We are perhaps unintentionally, creating a culture where they
feel they're primarily expected to deliver certain physical
numbers and training. Maybe we should be far more
concerned with developing intelligent, effective football
behaviors and decision making on the pitch then focusing
excessively on isolated fitness numbers.
So the core issue in education. Comes down to defining what's
truly fundamental and critically, who is providing the
education. The educators themselves need a
deep, nuanced understanding of football first and foremost, and
understand the correct supportive position of other
important areas like sports science within that hierarchy.
The problem is when science becomes the priority.
The problem arises when that specific area, sports science
data analysis, becomes the primary focus or priority over
the game itself. You used the glass bottle
analogy earlier. Think about that again.
Football is complex, systemic, everything's related.
The main reference point for everything you do must always be
playing football itself. Everything needs to relate back
to that central activity. Don't break the game down into
such incredibly small, isolated pieces.
Like fragmented glass. Like fragmenting a glass bottle.
So the individual parts, the shards, lose their fundamental
relationship to the whole, the original bottle shape.
You want to break it down analytically to understand
components, yes, but always keep the shape, always understand and
show these pieces are integral parts, the original bottle.
And you believe playing develops most capacities?
By simply playing the game in the correct, well designed
context, you can develop, I'd strongly argue, 98% of the
necessary capacities of football player needs.
We have powerful testimonies, examples of so many truly great
players from the past. Who developed differently?
Who developed and do extraordinary talents without
extensive gym work, without constant monitoring, simply by
playing the game endlessly, developing a deep intuitive love
and understanding for. It, but there's still room for
physical work. Of course, every individual is
different. There's legitimate space for
players who developed physically through different means.
Targeted physical work has its place.
But when you were specifically teaching the game, developing
football players, you must concentrate on the game itself,
on the pitch. Where do they learn more?
If a 12 year old spends an hour in the gym instead of an hour on
the pitch, where will they gain more of what's essential to
become a football player from the pitch?
Naturally, education should focus on what's crucial for that
core development. It reflects society's focus on
numbers, maybe. It's perhaps also a reflection
of society today heavily focused on numbers, measurement, instant
data and football being a massive global business
inevitably tolerates or absorbs many external influences and
mistakes like this tendency towards over measuring
everything. With such intense, demanding
experiences over so many years at the absolute top level, the
constant pressure, the media scrutiny, how did you personally
manage yourself day-to-day to stay grounded, focused, stay in
a positive space? For me, honestly, it was quite
simple. I just never stopped liking
football. Still love the game.
I still have a deep love for the game itself.
I genuinely enjoy the intellectual challenge,
dissecting ideas, reflecting on what others at the top level are
saying and doing, placing myself hypothetically in their position
to think how I might view things or approach certain situations.
That keeps you engaged. That constant engagement with
the game, that process of reflection and challenging
different perspectives is what keeps me personally involved and
mentally engaged. You're still involved, now
observing. I haven't completely walked
away. I continue to be involved, for
example doing technical observer work for UEFA, which allows me
to see many matches live at the highest level.
Yeah, so I am still watching football differently, but
perhaps from a slightly different perspective now,
observing more keenly the mental aspects, the tactical evolution,
and critically observing the direction the game as a whole is
evolving. Sometimes I find myself
questioning if that current direction is truly the best one.
And your conclusion? I have my own internal
conclusions that perhaps in some ways it's not, especially when
things seem to become overly complex.
Too many people involved, clubs starting to resemble large
hospitals with vast medical and sports science departments that
maybe over shadow the core football functions.
But. Science still has a place.
Again, let me reiterate, this isn't a criticism of the
dedicated professionals in those areas.
I understand their value having come from that background.
But football is fundamentally much more than just those
components in isolation. If sports science complements
and helps, offers valuable feedback, makes a small specific
contribution, that's important, useful.
But not more important in the game.
But when that area becomes more important, when it takes
priority over what is truly fundamental, the game itself,
the human element, the art and science of coaching, it simply
makes no sense in terms of developing players and teams
effectively. I continue to enjoy observing
and thinking about football from this slightly different
perspective now. Finally, let's touch on the
example of Portugal. There seems to have been a
significant coaching revolution there, arguably starting maybe 2
decades ago, heavily influenced, perhaps ignited by the wave of
success that emerged then. A big shift happened.
What was the broader impact of that period and what lessons
might it hold for countries maybe like the USA that are
currently working really hard to upgrade and professionalize
their coaching education systems?
The success that emerged from Portugal during that period,
particularly the global impact of the celebrated leader I
worked with, it had a huge, undeniably crucial influence
within Portugal itself. Oh so.
Before that era, most young people in Portugal primarily
dreamed of being football players.
After that period of success, he started seeing young kids
actively thinking about becoming coaches.
It opened up a completely different perspective on the
game, seeing coaching as a legitimate, impactful profession
and pathway. So it inspired coaches.
Yes, there was a massive and direct influence on coaching
development and aspirations within the country.
Today, Portugal has produced and continues to produce many
excellent, highly respected coaches at the top levels
worldwide. And players too, right?
And for the size of the country, around 10 million people, the
sheer number of top quality players it consistently produces
and exports globally is genuinely amazing.
It's a huge success story in player development nationally.
What's the secret? What do you attribute that
success to? I attribute a large part of it
to a fundamental priority placed on training as training
football, a focus on not losing precious time with other things
that are less fundamental to the core process of becoming a
football player. Like the Brazilian St. players?
Think back to the stories of the best Brazilian players of the
past. Many came from the streets.
Very little formal coaching, just the game itself.
Natural talent, endless playing while structured coaching is
certainly improved conditions introduced valuable
methodologies. Something's been lost.
I believe something fundamental has been somewhat lost in modern
development, That inherent fantasy, the spontaneity, the
creativity that often came from the simple freedom to play the
game endlessly without excessive structure or constant external
direction. You find it disappointing
sometimes. It is disappointing, sometimes
frustrating, to see young kids today spending significant time
on activities that might be less impactful.
Instead of simply playing football, training sessions can
become overly formal, rigid. Too much structure.
Unnecessary warmups before warmups, maybe even mandated gym
work before players even touch a ball on the pitch.
While routine and some structure are needed, perhaps not all
those complex, time consuming phases are truly beneficial,
especially for young minds and bodies.
So the pragmatic approach is. The pragmatic approach, the one
that yields the best results from each session, is to get the
players actively playing football as quickly and as much
as possible. Creating challenging exercises.
We should focus on creating good, challenging training
exercises that aren't overly complex exercises where kids are
naturally presented with problems to solve within the
dynamic context of the game itself.
Guided Discovery. You provide them with gradual
wealth, timed information and guidance that genuinely helps
them find those solutions themselves, fostering a sense of
guided discovery within the playing environment that, in my
view, is truly fundamental for long term development.
And that links back to Portugal's success.
And I believe the success in Portugal stems significantly
from giving this level of priority and importance to
coaching what is truly, at the core, the game itself.
Wow. We really have covered a
tremendous amount of fascinating ground in this deep.
Dive a lot to unpack. Definitely starting from that
absolute necessity of a coach having a clear core idea and
philosophy, navigating the crucial need for adaptability
across different contexts. Exploring the hands on
application of methodology and training.
Offering a critical, insightful perspective on the evolving role
of sports science and measurement.
Highlighting the non negotiable importance of the individual
player and the coaching staff structure.
And finally, drawing tangible lessons from national context,
like the Portuguese example. It's been really comprehensive.
The fundamental take away? I believe it just remains the
inherent complexity of the game itself and the absolute
unwavering need to keep the main reference point actively playing
football in its most holistic sense, right at the very heart
of everything we do in. Coaching, training development.
Everything. It's just far too easy to get
lost in the surrounding noise, the endless numbers, the
fragmented analysis, the measurement, but the game
itself, the spontaneous dynamic interaction that must always be
the absolute priority. So for you listening, think
about how these deep insights might challenge your own
perceptions of coaching, player development, maybe even how you
approach learning and applying complex information in your own
field or interests. Yeah.
What does this mean for how you view the game when you watch it,
or how you might approach acquiring and applying knowledge
more broadly? And perhaps as just a final
thought to leave you with, consider this.
In a world that is increasingly fixated on data metrics,
quantifying every single element, are we potentially
losing some of that invaluable fantasy, that intuitive
understanding, or perhaps even the pure, unadulterated joy that
comes from simply doing and experiencing the core activity
itself? Fantasy versus data.
It's certainly something worth reflecting on further, don't you
think? Absolutely a lot to think about
long after this deep dive ends. Thank you for joining us.
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